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– What will Hillary Clinton do if Republicans nominate a political outsider to threaten her career on the public dole? I'm PJTV's Scott Ott with Bill Whittle and Stephen Green, kicking off our three part analysis of the match-ups that Madame Rodham could face in 2016. We package them into three categories, one for each Trifecta show. In episode two, we'll consider the rising stars, Cruz and Rubio, and in our Member's Only episode three, we'll look at the moderate managers, Christie and Bush. For the purposes of this exercise, with the constraints of time, we're gonna by-pass Rick Santorum, John Kasich, Mike Huckabee, George Pataki, and Rand Paul. So let's start with the outsiders. Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and Carly Fiorina are each famous in their own fields, but none has served in elective office. The advantage? No political track record to attack and a reform message during a populace uprising that disdains politicians. The disadvantage, no experience facing an epic political villain like Clinton, and two of the outsiders are wealthy fat cats who thrived while folks got fired. Now, Stephen Green, of the three outsiders with which would you rather go to war against Hillary Clinton? How does the presence of your candidate change the battle space for the White House and Congress? And what would you do about it? – I can't believe I'm about to say this but I've been going through a, maybe something of a political metamorphosis in the last couple of weeks, we'll get more into that in the next couple of segments here, but if you've got to choose one of the outsiders, if it's Trump, Carson, or Fiorina, you've got to go with Donald Trump. Now, yeah, we can argue about policy all day long with Donald Trump and, you know what, policy-wise, he's a really, really bad Republican. I mean, if I could put it in Trumpese, the worst, awful, terrible, you've never seen such a lousy guy. On the other hand, if you're looking for somebody to beat, as you put it, this epic political villain, and that's exactly what Hillary is, you've got to go with Donald Trump. You've got to, out of that crew, out of that outside crew, Donald Trump is the one guy who peals away people from Hillary's base, other than women, and allows a big win. Now, I don't know what he's gonna do once he's actually in the White House, he might nuke Russia because he doesn't exactly understand what the Triad is, he may take us to single-payer and all this other stuff, but the fact is, he beats Hillary and that makes me like him a lot.

– Well, Bill Whittle, if you had to pick one of the three to take down Hillary Clinton, which would it be and how would you advise your candidate to maximize strengths, target Clinton's weaknesses, and, this is key, to pull a stronger Republican congressional majority in, on his or her coattails? – Well, I don't know. First of all, to answer the last part of the question first, I don't know what good a larger Republican majority's gonna do. We already have a large Republican majority and Paul Ryan just gave the whole farm away. So I don't care if we own the entire freakin' House and Senate, you know? If the Republican leadership is gonna just give everything away when you've got the votes to stop them, I don't know what good that's gonna do us period. I think people have had enough. This segment's about the outsiders and if we weren't, if both sides weren't already disgusted with politics as usual, you know, the only two people who are generating real buzz are Bernie Sanders on the left and Donald Trump on the right. They're the only one generating real enthusiasm because they're outsiders. And if we needed another push in terms of like business as usual has got to end, as I said, this Paul Ryan budget giveaway is enough to make, you know. I mean he was a candidate for Vice President four years ago and I think he's just wearing the beard so he doesn't get recognized on the street, frankly. So let's go to each one of the candidates. I think Ben Carson has got one of the best life stories I've ever heard. I think he's an incredibly brilliant guy. I think he is an astonishing success story. Ben Carson has less charisma of any candidate I've ever seen. I've been in a room with him several times, I admire him enormously, I think he's a wonderful man, but as a politician, he's just terrible. Look at him, I mean there he is, it's what he does, it's how he speaks. He turns and strolls sideways, looks straight ahead, never looks at the crowd. He's got zero charisma. I think he's the only on of the three that has very little chance to beat Hillary. So let's go to Carly, Now, Carly, Carly Fiorina is unique among the Republicans in that she has the ability to attack Clinton where Clinton is going to run and that's on the woman issue. I don't think Carly Fiorina is a top ticket of candidate. I just don't think she's got the charisma either. I don't think she's got quite that leadership thing, but I'll tell you what, if I was gonna pick a Vice President I think that's who I'd go with because it's the job of the Vice President during the campaign to be the attack dog. The Vice President gets to attack and then the presidential candidate gets to sit on top. So look, if I had to pick one of the three, I'd go with Donald Trump for the same reason that Steve said. Trump is, you know, Trump is Trump, but the thing I like about Trump and I think the thing that everybody likes about Trump, and as a matter of fact, sometimes often, the only thing I like about Trump, is that he is a fighter. And we've watched two election cycles now with McCain and Romney where they decided they're not gonna personally attack the Democratic candidate and we had two losses where we should have won them both. You know, I think my favorite Trump moment in terms of his ability to attack is Hillary Clinton says, "I think Donald Trump is dangerous," and within an hour or something, Donald Trump says, "I'm dangerous? "Maybe we should ask the guys who fought "and died in Benghazi who they think is dangerous. "Or maybe we should ask all the people who died "as a result of ISIS and killed in Paris and in "San Bernardion as a result of ISIS, which was "created by Hillary Clinton, I think maybe those people "ought to have a vote on who's dangerous. "She's the one who's dangerous." Man, that kind of thing, that kind of thing is how you win elections against this horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible candidate called Hillary Clinton. – Hey, Scott, could I throw something in real quick here about Fiorina? – [Scott] Go ahead, Steve. Yeah, please do. – Yeah, Bill, I'm gonna disagree with you on the charisma part. Maybe she's a little flat talking about issues, but when she is in attack mode on Hillary Clinton, that is a woman on fire and I love her in that one mode, which is why I think you're right, she'd be a great veep candidate.

– Well, nominating a political outsider will naturally force down-ballot congressional candidates to emphasize their independence from political power structures. This poses the greatest challenge to multi-term incumbents who will have to convince voters they've been born again to populism or that they're excited that they'll finally have an ally for reform in the White House after years of fighting alone. Carly Fiorina has a track record of hitting the road to back Republican candidates and seems most likely to play will with others and as she frequently reminds us, she's the only Republican candidate who can throw every punch at Hillary Clinton. Ben Carson can offer a bit of star power to a Senator's fundraiser with the ever-present risk that he'll say something which is politically incorrect, which is, of course, what made him a candidate in the first place. And Donald Trump, as always, is the wild card, the one who congressional incumbents will keep at arm's length and the one with whom rookie candidates will seek to link arms, hoping to get sprinkled with stardust. If he's the nominee, he'll pay lip service to being a team player, but his lips tend to wander and he prefers to go solo so that the accolades rain down on his name alone. All three have a fair shot at beating Hillary if they ride the wave of voter disdain for perennial political hacks like her. The main question is, will they have coattails and can they work together with legislatures inside a system they now say they despise? For Bill Whittle, Stephen Green, and the entire Trifecta crew at PJTV.com, I'm Scott Ott. (intense music)